Journal Assignments

Jessica Journal 9

In my opinion, Nora is a tragic heroine. It seems like she gave up a lot, including her old self to try to make things better for her and her husband Torvald. I would not compare Oedipus or Othello to Nora because I felt more pitty for her than to Othello and Oedipus. That is, because she did not kill to get what she wanted, she simply black mailed but had not intentions of killing anyone but herself. She didn't want to keep living life the way she was knowing she was going to get exposed by Krogstad for borrowing money which was pretty much for Torvald.

Alyssa's 9th Journal Entry

I think that Nora is a tragic hero because in a way she is tragic because she doesn't realize how much her husband tries to control her and by trying to help him she hurts him. I think she is a tragic hero like Oedipus because when she did something bad all she was doing was trying to help her husband and in the end that is what frees her from him. Which is a good thing but when this play was written everyone went nuts that Nora didn't come back or something bad happened to her because no one believed that a women would do that and have no misfortune.

Journal 9

In my view, Nora does have some traits of being a tragic heroine. Her fortune turns from “good” to “bad” and she defiantly experiences catharsis. Despite these traits however, she is not a tragic heroine. Her fortune switching from “good” to “bad” is to blame for this. She starts with a fortune that is financially stable and filled with family, but this is in fact bad for her, as she has, “been your (Helmer’s) doll-wife”, meaning she has had no real purpose in life or honor as she has been fully dependent on others her whole life.

Journal 9: Nora as a tragic heroine

Nora is the heroine of "A Doll's House," but she is not the definition of a tragic hero. She does not have a reversal of fortune from good to bad, in fact, she has a happy ending. She leaves her husband because she realizes he does not truly love her. He is only concerned about his reputation when he finds out she broke the law to save his life. She made huge sacrifices for him, but he was not willing to make even one for her. She leaves him to start her life over and be true to herself, which is a happy ending for her and one that she is satisfied with.

Vivian Journal 9

I think that we can make a better argument for Nora than for Othello but I still see Oedipus as the shining example of tragic.

Journal Nine: Nora as Tragic Heroine?

As with the last two weeks, we'll use what Aristotle wrote about tragedy as our starting point:

Tragedy is characterized by seriousness and involves a great person who experiences a reversal of fortune (Peripeteia), generally from good to bad because this induces pity and fear within the spectators. Tragedy results in a catharsis (emotional cleansing) or healing for the audience or character (who experienced catharsis is open to dispute) through their experience of these emotions in response to the suffering of the characters in the drama.

Based on this, and compared to Oedipus and/or Othello, can we make a good argument for Nora being a tragic figure, one who would be acceptable to Aristotle (if he didn't most likely view the world through a rather patriarchal lens)? Does she have the requisite qualities of a "tragic hero"? (Or heroine if you like. And don't forget the final 'e' there, otherwise, it's just heroin.) As you answer this, show how Nora is or is not like Oedipus or Othello, with specific examples illustrating your view on the three and how they are (not) necessarily noble enough to evoke our pity and fear with regard to their demise. Illustrate your discussion with passages from each of the plays that provide support for your view.

Having posted your thoughts, respond to at least two other journals and one response to your journal, for a minimum of three responses. Due date for the journal is midnight Sunday. Responses are due by midnight Tuesday.

Jessica Journal 8

To me, Othello seemed like a selfish person. He does not seem to have the requisite qualities of a tragic hero. A tragic hero is someone who has good heroic intentions. Othello jumped to conclusions and killed his wife because he thought she was being unfaithful when it was Iago who had said that Cassio and Desdemona were having an affair. I think Othello and Oedipus are totally different. Both killed but they had different reasons. Othello killed because of jealousy whereas Oedipus never got along with his father so killing his father was like killing a person he didn't like or know.

Othello Vs. Oedipus

Othello and Oedipus have only two thing in common. Their names both start with O and they are rash with their words. Oedipus is blameless in the eyes of the Greeks. He is a king who tries to do the best by his people but Apollos cruse has Oedipus falling form grace. He loses his wife and mother. He loses his eye and he loses his city and family. All of this because his mother and father pissed off a god. Othello on the other hand piss off no deity. He only pisses off a man who lust for power and position. Othello kills his wife. She doesn’t strangle her self.

Journal 8: Othello vs. Oedipus

Othello is a tragic hero because of his self-centered nature and gullibility. He tries to redeem himself in the end, but at that point it is too late. Othello is like Oedipus in that they both let their pride destroy them. Othello's pride lies in his insecurity of his appearance, while Oedipus' pride shows in his belief that he is greater than the gods and can change his own fate. Othello's insecurity leads to him being deceived by lago into believing his wife Desdemona has been unfaithful to him, rather than trusting his heart.

Alyssa's 8th Journal Entry

When we were reading the story "Othello" I thought that Othello was not a tragic hero because he seemed to react to situations happening to him in a weird way. I think that he is different that Oedipus because Oedipus could not stop what was going to happen and he was trying to stop the plague in his kingdom. I think that Oedipus was trying to be noble when he was looking to help his kingdom but I think Othello is not very noble at all because he seems to do a lot of things out of someone planting stuff into his mind.

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